Richard Dawkins - The Argument from Beauty



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Richard Dawkins and Lalla Ward read excerpts from Dawkins's "The God Delusion": The Argument from Beauty.
Klaus Mertens sings the bass aria "Mache dich, mein Herze, rein" from Johann Sebastian Bach's St. Matthew Passion. Ton Koopman leads the Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra.


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Something specific ... ( 1 week ago by Di66en6ion)
Something specific and external to the bible would probably do it. And probably something not obviously self-fulfilling.
You completely ... ( 1 week ago by Ravendov)
You completely changed what you said. Your quote was actually: 'its only a ridiculous bunch of rich white folk with too much time and money.' Not only did you not say 'first' as you claimed in your last comment. but you used the term 'only' which designates rich white males as the only group you could have been addressing. I read your comment perfectly clearly. Furthermore, Kent Hovind does not have scientific training despite calling himself a doctor, while scientists are reliable as experts.
Also, when you tell ... ( 1 week ago by Ravendov)
Also, when you tell someone to 'learn to read,' it helps if the person uses improper grammar, as well as you actually using proper grammar. If neither of these conditions are met, you just end up looking like a person grasping at irrelevant straws to support your arguments that make almost no sense whatsoever.
"Scientists", are ... ( 6 days ago by ytmachx)
"Scientists", are not reliable as experts! Everyone has an agenda, a prejudice, and without a belief in God, there is no compelling reason to be honest. I've heard it said that Einstein was a terrible student in math class. In fact he was more learned than his teachers. He also believed in God. You believe that only someone trained can have knowledge? Open your little mind to the fact that there are other sources of knowledge besides your gods,your liberal God hating profs and universities.
There are more ... ( 6 days ago by inwit)
There are more falsehoods, inaccuracies, and irrelevancies in ytmachx's comment than there are sentences in it. There ought to be a prize for such artless accomplishment!
no, i didnt ... ( 5 days ago by insaner169)
no, i didnt completely change what i said. i restated it to make it more clear. i added the first (with underlines so it was clear i added it) so that my original intent was clearer. you also changed what i originally said to something i did NOT, adding the "all atheists" bit. i was referring to that group as the originator, not the sole owner of this neo-atheism.
so kent hovind, because he is not have scientific training, is therefore unable to point out the obvious errors in atheist "science?"
as great as you may ... ( 5 days ago by insaner169)
as great as you may find LSD, it still does not make you see. the man was found to have had his sight restored, the detractors themselves had to recognize this, and was one of the sources of their rage. he didnt just claim to see, he COULD see.
it is important to ... ( 5 days ago by insaner169)
it is important to argue over semantics so that we both know what we are talking about. we cannot part from two different sets of assumptions and expect to reach a same conclusion. i need to know how you define certain terms before i use them, for example. i need to know that you are at the very very LEAST willing to accept new evidence, willing to recognize the possibility that you may be wrong. you havent done that yet, so we cannot progress, no matter how much evidence i present
some sort of ... ( 5 days ago by insaner169)
some sort of grammatical elitism? refuse to hear the arguments of one who doesnt use "proper" grammar? thats just ridiculous man. sure, i could use proper grammar for you, if that would in some way break your pride open to listen to a lowly non-atheist. somehow i doubt it though. i knew a guy just like that, he would only accept new information as true if it was formatted a certain way, regardless of truth content. its ridiculous. but yes, im willing to do it for you, if you demand it
child molester in ... ( 5 days ago by insaner169)
child molester in an arm chair? wow, now i have no clue what you are going on about.. in any case, if the most intelligent minds in the world cannot even agree on the facts and are constantly contradicting each other (if you are not even aware of this, then your faith is based on sheer ignorance) and what you call "science" is constantly changing, the only thing you can hold for certain is that you will always be believing (at least) something false.
i hope i dont have ... ( 5 days ago by insaner169)
i hope i dont have to give you a list of groundbreaking scientists that had no scientific training for you to see how this isnt valid. secondly, like i said, i wasnt going to use hovind, dont need to. oh and i have a question for everyone, does science confirm science? and, can science be confirmed outside itself? in other words, atheists make fun of people who say the bible is true because the bible says so, but isnt it the same when you say "science is true cuz sceince says its true"?
Insaner, I copy/ ... ( 5 days ago by Ravendov)
Insaner, I copy/pasted your comment. The reason science is verifiable and religion is not is simply because religion uses circular logic, where science is tested, and verified by trained experts, not archaic men who voted on what goes into the bible and what does not. The 'obvious errors' in science (atheist science as you put it) the Kent Hovind points out are quite irrational and anyone with basic scientific understanding can refute them. He has little knowledge to make a refutable comment.
I'm always in the ... ( 5 days ago by Di66en6ion)
I'm always in the position that I know that I could be wrong. I'm not however, in the position of taking what anyone says on faith, with zero evidence to support there claim.
For me to believe it would take a situation where the logical alternative (the one that would makes sense) was even MORE unprobable than the "supernatural" one.
I'm not advocating ... ( 5 days ago by Di66en6ion)
I'm not advocating use of LSD (and I've never done it), just of the unusual and interesting things it does to the brain. And yes, it can give you a hallucination or illusion through a form of synesthesia.
Can you link a source to validate that he can see? Was he blind from birth? Can he still see?
Don't be coy either ... ( 5 days ago by Di66en6ion)
Don't be coy either, you can link these events all you want but it's one thing to show them as unexplained and it's another to attribute them to YOUR god or any god.
"Does science ... ( 5 days ago by Di66en6ion)
"Does science confirm science?" and "Can science be confirmed outside itself?" makes no sense whatsoever.
Science is not a thing or entity, it's simply a word describing a process by which we gather systematic knowledge. Something may be true because a dozen independently verified fields of knowledge and processes say it's true. A theory isn't true because it says so, it's true because it makes accurate predictions nearly 100% of the time.
"Everyone has an ... ( 5 days ago by Di66en6ion)
"Everyone has an agenda"
- Especially theists
"no compelling reason to be honest"
- I see atheists being honest without a belief in god all the time?
"In fact he (Einstein) was more learned than his teachers."
- Pretty known fact that younger people are less educated than older ones. He didn't become "more learned" till he was much older.
"He also believed in God"
- Definitely not your god, more of a wonderous universe as god viewpoint which holds no dogma like you're beliefs do.
"You believe that ... ( 5 days ago by Di66en6ion)
"You believe that only someone trained can have knowledge?"
- Obviously not, many well known people are self-tought. Either way you're still reviewing (hense being "trained") material crafted by someone else.
"your liberal God hating profs and universities"
- Objectivly speaking... you're a fucking moron.
I often say ... ( 4 days ago by ZerqTM)
I often say creativity is devinity,
not the creator.
that is not nessesarily a religious statment...
i just venerate creativity as the act of investing ones soul into material creation thus acheaving a mesure of imortality...
i generaly agree with dawkins for most of the time but i do enjoy some spiritual philosofical speculations.
though i like to use sciense and reason to illiminate false leads.
after all the metaphysical is that beond the physical...
The majority of ... ( 4 days ago by runevirage)
The majority of people who do "biblical theory" are either priests or old men with little education who do "armchair" hypotheses (e.g. no real experimentation or calculations). I'm sure we're all aware of the scandalous history of priests and child molestation. Also, scientists are continually debating minute details in which exact answers haven't been discerned yet. For things like the theory of evolution or gravity, there is absolutely no debate. Anything you heard otherwise was a pure lie.
Your fanatical ... ( 4 days ago by runevirage)
Your fanatical style and general lack of a clue can only make me conclude that you are highly uneducated. Anyone who's stepped in a university for a day would understand how outlandish or false your claims are, let alone someone who's achieved a degree in a higher faculty. You might think you're making valid arguments, but I assure you, some 6 year olds would be embarrassed to say what you are saying.
National burn your ... ( 4 days ago by interested976)
National burn your bible day December 25th 2012
Wow! Great Music! ( 2 days ago by JEFFtheATHEIST)
Wow! Great Music!
you tell them! ( 3 hours ago by ibstrd)
you tell them!



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